I mean, botting is pretty cut and dry on this MUD. I've been a player for ages, and when someone is actually botting, they get punished. You agree to the rules at the very start of the game and there's even a question about how many triggers you're allowed to have (hint: The answer is none). Yes, people openly jest about botting because they've been there forever and those that have been there forever have seen players come and go quickly because they're too lazy to type in two or three letter commands, and instead set up the client to do it for them. The point of playing the game is to achieve progression by yourself, not allow a program to do it for you. If you don't want to have fun and actually play, learn, and enjoy the game yourself, then feel free to go join a community that allows or actually does ignore botting. I hear that there are plenty of them. But if you want to join a community that actually interacts, has a personality, and wants you to enjoy playing for the sake of playing, then give DB:I a try; without the botting and triggers. Chances are you'll become addicted.

I honestly got banned for simply asking questions and correcting a few GMs. The only reason this mud is popular is cause they go mud to mud recruiting already dying Player bases. It makes me sad as a classic dbz mud fan.

I agree 99% with Grif. This mud was ok to take up idle time, lots of hack and slashing to get more powerful. Though you can never get as powerful as any of the Immortal's characters since they cheat regularly and brag about it too! Any time global events happen weaker, out of clique players will be forcequit out repeatedly to keep the Imm's friends advantage in those events. Any time you kill one of their alternate characters, the IMM will simply log a different one of their characters to relentlessly hunt you, no matter what their own rules say about multi-interaction and pkrevenge with alts. You will be bashed for anything and everything, think of the worst internet trolls with all the time in the world, and pack them all into one MUD where they have some 'power' and you'll get dragonball infinity. The only point I disagree with Grif is that its less like highschool and closer to elementary school with a limited adult's vocabulary. Also, Pokemon take priority in Dragonball Infinity... I know I know, nothing like dragonballbut well that's just how it is there, grade school stuff. I have logs of the main Admin Rendo giving his buddy Cosor all sorts of perks and explaining how to abuse bugs of the system to maintain a monopoly on dragonballs. Logs of Maverick sending people to his blog to get quest info, because he agreed that the questinfo rule was too rigid before he was promoted to a builder/IMM. Logs of IMM Ryune getting a 1 in 100,000 drop item due to a bug told to him by IMM Gordo cause he changed the drop rate to 1 in 1000 for a few days for his buddy. I also have logs of Raykar pking Maza and Cosor back to back, which is the one time that cheating wasn't needed.

Raykar and Grif have a bit of a sour reputation with most of the playerbase. Even today invoking Raykar or Grif's name in conversation is akin to an insult. There is no cheating that happens on DBI. We build the areas, so there is no denying that admins have an advantage when it comes to determining quests and knowing drop rates. As for Ryune getting a 1/100,000 drop (it's actually 1/1,000,000, and there are now ways to farm this drop) was a fluke in which the drop rate program was written improperly. Ryune just happens to farm jewel shards more than anyone else on the MUD (by a landslide). I would be happy to explain Raykar and Grif's situations and mindsets to anyone who enters the MUD, as will any other admin, and most of the playerbase. Suffice to say they are not exactly shining examples of maturity in the MUD (the fact that Raykar needed to complain about people liking Pokemon should be evidence enough of that) and have developed long, deserved reputations. Of all the people to complain about cheating...

Before I begin, I'd like to say Andalar's review is for the most part fair and what he has said about me is true in a specific light, with the only thing that's 100% false is that I don't care about the playerbase. The way I run and the direction I take DBI in is the direction I want. Many people like this, while others will dislike it. That's simply how things work, as there will always be someone who doesn't like what you're doing or how you're doing it. To say I don't care about the playerbase is absurd, especially when they're providing free entertainment at their own personal expense. The biggest issue that occurs between myself and specific players is they don't like X thing, and want me to change it. They never give compelling arguments as to why it should be changed, but they do it, usually for their own safety. DBI has evolved over the years and I've taken it into a more player vs player based game, over one involving solo grinding. You can still become powerful going solo, but interactions with players, for skills, powerlevel, other items are primarily where you will get most of your strength. The issue most people have with this is a lot of the player killing that goes on. This is a MUD based on DragonBall. DragonBall had villains. DBI has villains. People don't like dying. People thinking dying over and over shortly after the allocated 'safe timer' is harassment. According to the rules the DBI staff has come up with, as well as the coding restrictions, this is not harassment. There are 3 player killing flags. Red/HC which means anyone can attack you, Yellow, which means anyone within 5x your base can attack you, and White which means anyone within 1.5x your base powerlevel can attack you. In the case that you're out of any of those ranges, a bounty can be placed on a target and as long as they have a PK flag on, and everyone gets a PK White flag at 100k base, though the bounties can only be attempted on when they are 10 billion base, the player is treated like they have a PK Red flag. Now you may be thinking, hey this seems unfair. You can buy the bounty at 2x the cost, with an overall increase of 5% everytime you buy the bounty, and then you get a 2 hour bounty free timer, or you can accept your death and get a 6 hour bounty free timer. The average powerlevel less for a player is roughly 2-5.5% on a death and gaining back that little powerlevel in the 2-6 hour time frame shouldn't take even an average player that much time. With all these checks in place, pissing someone off and having them come after you for whatever reason, like they need one though, this is DragonBall afterall, is not harassment. Now, let's say you don't like PK. added,... Read More

[ 47] Vairen: Sonny Date: Wed Apr 22 22:36:07 2009 To: all Caught Sonny botting med/focus ki - destroyed and two week banned. I do believe that covers why this review is so negative. He was deleted and banned for breaking the MUD's rules. We are so power hungry, we enforce our OWN rules. That is all. :)

I was by no way botting and nothing was said to me. One second I was meditating and the next I was booted and banned. No warning or explanation. Someone just walked in and assumed I was botting? I'd suggest you get a grip on your players and immortals because if you handle all your new players with false accusations and any less courtesy then that. Then it's not going to make it much longer in my opinion. All this time I was under the impression that I was banned just because I didn't fit in. Nice to know it was false accusations.

I happen to be bumping this, but at least it's not a forum.. If someone gets banned for botting, it is possible for anyone to claim that they were online during that time, actually PLAYING the game, rather than using a bot. Warning of explanation? You were definitely warned when you made your first character. In fact, it was even mentioned in a QUIZ that beginners had to complete. So warned? Yes, you were. Explanation - once again, the 'warning' told you everything. It did mention that DBI did NOT allow any bots (and other things). False accusations? Hardly - people don't just WALK in and accuse you of botting. I've experienced some bot checks - no one just came into where I was and checked whether I was botting or not. All the admins that I have met are friendly, and if they disliked you for any reason, think about the way you behave and interact with other players on the MUD. In fact, you back my comment up yourself - you thought you were banned because 'you didn't fit in'. If you were an admin, and someone kept going around to people and making them aggravated, use channels to swear and say random things.. What would you do? That's not called 'fitting in'. It's more like trying to get kicked off the MUD. Also, sections from your original review: 'power hungry immortals that are only nice to people who suck up to them. I don't recall myself sucking up to people, yet I still communicate with many 'power hungry' players. Ignored? I was barely ignored. The only times no one replied to my questions was when there was about 4-5 people on. Distasteful jokes? I find them quite hilarious, on my part. Perhaps, you just have a different taste compared to other people. This is NOT something that you should use as a reason for disliking this MUD. Once again, the primary reason that would explain why you were 'ignored' and treated unfairly by 'power hungry' people is due to your own behavior. Think about it, and do not insult this MUD or any other with such selfish remarks. The comments that you made about this MUD is completely based on what you thought about SOCIAL things. A proper review would have been to carefully analyze the basic construction and design. Social reasons would have been a minor part. Social reasons that are not based on selfish reasons, to be exact. In the future, be careful of what you write, and rather create your own MUD and display your perfection the MUD world. *Ryoukaiiz.* (Kradia)

The MUD isn't down. The only major downtime we had was when my ISP decided to make some policy changes and I was without internet access for about a week. No access for me, means no access for the players. It has been resolved and there are no foreseeable issues that will cause a longer than normal down time. I apologize, but we're still around. :D

To start with, my sincere apologies that something like this EVEN happened. The mud reboots at 4am and I get kicked off at 4am until I login sometime around 8am MUD time. Things that happen between 4am and the time I log back in often go unnoticed by me, and only when something is brought to my attention does it actually get any investigation. I didn't have to spend any more than a few minutes to see what happened. What happened is absolutely ridiculous, childish, and you're right. We don't stand a chance if this is how new players are treated when they complain/argue/whatever about policies existing in the game, baseless or not. I assure you, this matter will be taken care of immediately. I am extremely disappointed with this staff member's actions, and I'm very frustrated garbage like this happens when I'm not around to monitor the mud for all of four hours. I've changed the reboot time as a precaution so hopefully my presence will be enough of a deterrence for the ridiculous behavior. Now, on to the policy. I understand that it's a GIANT pain in the butt, but there were SO many times people would NOT read announcements and would complain about being punished or about whatever it is because they failed to read it. You can SKIP the announcements by reading the last note posted so you're not stuck going through all of them, however it's your responsibility to understand any changes that are posted in them. Yes, some announcements are trivial, mostly by me, but most of the time they're relevant to the MUD and should be read to keep everyone up to date with some changes. I understand if you are completely against trying DBI out again, but I do ask you stop by to see that everything I said in this response was lived up to, and that the way you were treated will not be tolerated in the future. Take care.

I love when people write reviews about our mud and tend to leave out important facts, such as logging on and ranting about the system which is in place to keep our players informed of changes that could have huge affects on their characters. Yes, not all announcements are of 100% importance but they are written for a reason. As for the 'GTFO' that Mikor here very carefully pointed out, it would have been polite, or at least somewhat honorable, to put the rest of what I said as well. After hearing this player insult the mud, myself and anyone else who supported the gnote system for thirty minutes I said. 'Well if you are just going to pick at our game and players u can gtfo.' Generally I would have silenced Mikor from the start when the conversation about the gnotes changed to a bashing contest on who likes it and who doesn't by hurling profane insults. But don't take my word for it by any means. I wasn't the only admin on at the time and several other players were on as well. All in all, my review of this review is as follows... Nothing out of the ordinary from a player who breaks rules and is trying to make themselves look in the right.

If you're going to do a review, at least have the bravado to use your game name and not an alias that's never been used in the game. On to my point now. Playerbashing by the Imms at DBI does occur to some extent. It all depends on the situation. If a person, and I think I know who you are, is constantly asking an immortal to break our own rules and help them with a quest and then go on an INSANE rant and start bashing themselves, you can bet an Imm will bash back. We don't spend countless hours trying to make DBI as fun and enjoyable as we can only to have people call us assholes and other expletives. Respect is a two way street and if you don't earn it, don't expect to be treated with it. That's a life lesson, not just a DBI rule. Secondly, the IT quest and any other quest on DBI. DBI implemented the NO QUEST INFO rule for a variety of reasons. Quests are a good way to advance your character with skills and or some of the best gear in the game. DBI isn't some widescale game like World of Warcraft. We have a general playerbase of 10-25 people at any given time, and our feelings are that quests should be done on your own without any help. It's a test of YOUR abilities as a player, and if you can't complete a quest, then maybe you're lacking the skills to think abstract. The IT quest is far from impossible, in fact a lot of other DBZ based MUDs have the area files for the quest, FOR IT, so get used to it somewhere else. The quest is excellently written, requires a little bit of common sense, and reading comprehension. All quests in DBI, not just the IT quest, are completable. It's up to you look for clues and make sure you SPOT them when an NPC tells you things you NEED to know. I take negative and partially biased reviews seriously. I am the owner of DBI and I make sure to set the record straight. DBI has its problems, but what MUD doesn't? We try our best to offer the best DBZ mudding experience and I and the playerbase feels that's what we've accomplished. Take Cherice's review at face value. S/he got upset that they were unable to complete a quest, openly admitted in their review that they ASKED people on messengers, and then got mad at the staff when we enforced our own rules of not revealing the information and more likely than not, defended ourselves from their verbal assault. Come try DBI for yourself and make your own opinions.

Cherice's review is right on. I got to the IT quest myself, it is impossible to complete in the manner in which the administration demands. Besides it being a STOCK area, it was never an area designed to be designated as a strict, you can't talk about so and so, area. It was an area designed on freely shared information between players, guiding each other along, perhaps even with help from immortals. Basically, the area if you judge it as a stand alone quest area is trash. There are no descriptors and the keyword for the final stage of the temple does not exist unless you look at the source. There is no indication speech is required, in fact the quest is misleading. Moonbase is very poor. Most of the areas are trash when judged upon questing area criteria. They were never supposed to be that. The players don't even answer questions when you ask them about syntax, everyone on the mud just ignores you if you are talking about a quest even if you don't ask direct quest information. Yes, just turn away from this mud and better yet, start up a new Saga clone that is more true to the original. Aka, not trying to be elitist in you can't have this skill because you're obviously not good enough to get this. Speaking as an old Saga player, I have to say 'lol'. This is the way people with no real achievements, feel good about themselves. Or are a veteran and know what they are doing from beforehand, from the old Saga. The only reason Dragonball Infinity is so small is because it IS an elitist fest, so yeah, if you are a new player to a 'Saga clone' and/or lack knowledge of the DBZ universe, then look elsewhere. Besides the above admin just blatantly calling the player stupid for not figuring it out in the first place, aka, unable to deal with 'abstract reasoning', you have just seen Dragonball Infinity right there for what it is. Yeah, it's not them, it's obviously you, the player, who has the problem. Stuck-up administration. For a stock clone, with nothing new, that for the most part sticks to the original Saga (and this is the only piece of the game that shines), the direction they are trying to take the game is not only laughable but downright offensive to players who like a friendly, helpful athmosphere in which to play and have fun in. And RP freely to their heart's content. Not have fun dictated upon them. YOU WILL DO IT OUR WAY OR NOT AT ALL AND YOU'RE GONNA LIKE IT! There is no freedom in this game to just have fun and play, because of the incredible attitude of the administration regarding quests, none of which are their own. The admin even points a player out to look into stock area codes instead of being allowed help from fellow players in game or even themselves, order... Read More

First off. LOL!!!!!!!! Alright, back to business. Once again we have another 'coward' who has to use an alias to post their comment. Keyan has never been a playerfile on DBI, so that right there should be clear indication of this 'players' intentions. So let's go over some of these 'issues'. For starters, the IT quest is not a STOCK area. It was created and designed by Kilan, and has been used in many if not all DBS based MUDs. It is an original DBI area, not STOCK. Not only does the ENTIRE area have descriptions, but the quest is 100% able to be completed. It is my, and my staff's view that quests should be challenging, so where exactly is the challenge if you just find out how to do it from another player? How does this improve your skills on DBI if you can't even figure out one of the more SIMPLE, yet complex quests in the game? Regarding syntax, if it's related to a quest, you will not receive help, as per our rules. I'm sorry if you find them too strict, but as I previously said, if it's too hard for you to do, then don't do it. We recently offered an RP Reward that allows you to obtain skills for RPP, so you can buy Instant Transmission if you're unable to complete the quest. As for the 'elitism' and 'size' of DBI. DBI has one of the most consistent and active playerbases out of all DBZ based MUDs. Our players are also some of the most mature, loyal, and helpful players you will find. They do answer your questions, but if you act like a child, why should they help you? What makes you think you have any rights to information if you log on and treat people like crap? As for our 'stock' code. Saiyr, and you should know who he is, for those that didn't he was one of the coders for the original DBS, stated MANY years ago that DBI is the most advanced DBS derivative there is. So you can only imagine that over the years more code has been added. We have a custom skill/race system that allows us to create whole races in game without the need to code. We've had many requests for this code as it's one of our most powerful features. If you call that 'stock' then you surely live in a faery tale world. :) 99% of the areas and code are DBS/DBI based. We've used a few snippets here and there and given credit where it is due. So your absurd accusation is unfounded and fictitious. Once again, we have a case where a player, or quite possibly a 'rival' admin from another DBS based MUD, has posted a review about DBI. They fail to use their REAL player name, because it's easier to post anonymously and hide behind their wall. Please take their comments, and even mine, as pure bias. witness... Read More

There are a few things in these reviews that I do not agree with, and I would like to share that with the TMC Community. Firstly, DBI has had a no quest help rule for a long time now and that is not going to change. It's the way our MUD is run, it's the only way that makes sense based on many of the quests in the game. What's the point of having quests and forcing people to play for their in-game rewards if everyone gives everyone else the answer? We might as well just line up a row of merchants and have them sell every item and skill in the game for free. Quests are important, they are meant to give players something to do and fun ways to expand their characters. That being said, they are not all easy. The IT quest is NOT a stock area. No idea where anyone got that idea. It was built by Kilan specifically for DBI2.0, was installed then and was even voted on by the players as the best area in the game. You may be able to call it 'stock' now because DBI has allowed other clones and codebases to take and use the area, or because the DBI codebase has been leaked a couple of times. But it was not a stock area, it was specifically built for DBI, and YES, IT IS HARD. Seems to me that a very large percentage of our playerbase has completed it though. Seems to me there were other players completing this quest at the same time these players were complaining it was impossible. I, myself, made and ran a test mortal player through it to make sure that it worked properly and that these players weren't experiencing bugs, which they weren't. Quests are not always just 'go here, do this, get this, take it back'. It is not DBI's fault if that's what you are used to. The IT quest requires INVOLVED READING of room descriptions, item descriptions and much out-of-the-box thinking. Again, this quest has been part of DBI for a long time and I can guarantee you that 95% of the playerbase that attempts it does complete it, without any help. Now, when you spam questions after being told that asking about quests is against the rules, you're going to get silenced. When you're silenced, create a new character to bash the imms, that's punishment evasion and some imm bashing...You don't expect to be treated the way you're treating others? I'm sorry, but you get what you give on DBI. I was there, I saw the whole thing, I was involved, and this is just a story of a couple of players who didn't want to accept that something was working properly, simply because they couldn't figure it out. It's always the kids who get picked last for baseball that don't like playing the sport.

First, the IT quest. You make wild assumptions that the area is a 'stock' area not designed for solo-attempts, not to mention, by definition of 'stock', the area is not. I designed the area for DBI, and it was released during one of the few codebase leaks, and almost immediately snatched up by whoever wanted to try their hand at running a MUD. I'd like to point out that upon implementation of the area, due to the quest being that which the ultimate goal is an almost critical skill, I put those rules in place. The ultimate expansion of 'no quest info' resulted from those rules. There are plenty of clues scattered through the areas, and like Rendo said, you have to keep an eye out for them and(as most quests are) PAY ATTENTION TO EVERYTHING SO YOU DON'T MISS A CRUCIAL PIECE OF INFORMATION. Some parts of the quest require common sense, which is apparently not as common as it should be. Other parts of the quest require exploration - namely the Moonbase - which isn't a very difficult concept to grasp. So the overall quest isn't easy. Big deal. It wasn't meant to be. As for most of everything else, I won't even bother getting into mostly for the fact that it has already been covered and resolved elsewhere. I will say this, though. Read carefully. WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BE DRAGONBALL SAGA. We don't care what DBS did, we don't care what DBS wanted to do. We're doing what we want with the MUD, the way we feel things should be done. If you don't like it, don't play here. I say that with no hostility. There are plenty of other MUDs out there you can play. I'm sure you'll find one that suits your desires, whether it be mindless soloing to level up as far as you can, or a basic chat room where senior players and staff alike throw around insults and pretend they're the greatest thing since sliced bread. I'm sorry you found DBI so displeasing. But know that we aren't going to change how we do things just because you couldn't figure something out. Confusing quests in actual video games cause the same problems, and you don't see the staff of Ubisoft or Square Enix doing anything to make it easier on you. DBI is not a MUD in which you can train easily then idle around, screaming 'I R TEH BETTAR DEN YUO, TUCH MI PEEN'. It is challenging and, at times, thought-provoking. Not your cup of tea? Oh well.

It's foolish to think that the instant transmission quest is what DBI revolves around. It certainly isn't a hard one to figure out if you've been gifted with an adept mind. However, for those who just want everything thrown at them without actually playing and experiencing, maybe even going back three or fifteen times to find something you might not catch onto the first time, I would say is a ridiculous demand. So, I suppose it's a shame in most who are reading this' mind that here at DBI we won't fork over every little detail and actually make you think and explore to go complete something. Although, I could be wrong...

Congratulations on writing your review Xyphen, you didn't disappoint! On to business. Yes, the skills are mostly unbalanced with the maxless ki system, that's true. This issue is going to be addressed in the upcoming playerwipe. I could fix it now, but people would complain about being forced to focus all day just so they can use skills again. As for being able to ki heal constantly. That will also be addressed for the playerwipe. I'm aware of a lot of the balance issues but you must realize. We haven't pwiped in 3 years. Drastic changes like this will be met with a lot of resistance and hatred, so it's better to leave it as it is now and have a 'few' haters. Most of the 'quests' in game are well done. The IT quest is used by many DBS derived codebases because it's done so well. Occasionally issues come up, but they are addressed when needed. Keeping your mouth shut about issues surely is a good way to NOT have your problems taken care of. :) There are only a handful of DBS original areas left over, and yes, they have not been adjusted to the new gains system, however there's a skill called suppress that allows you to lower your powerlevel so you can continue to gain on the weaker NPCs before you adventure forth to the stronger ones. Bio-Androids don't get this skill, and Xyphen's main race was a Bio-Android so this is why he's complaining about it. Bio-Android's are required to kill to obtain their skills, via pk or through NPCs, NPCs having a greatly reduced chance of acquiring a skill. On top of that, there are many areas that cover the powerlevel gaps that exist in the DBS areas, so with a little exploring, you're quite fine with gaining powerlevel non stop. It just takes a bit of adventure. There are only TWO bugged android quests, it was a poorly designed DBS original area that will be removed for the playerwipe. Very few, if any androids actually take the time to complete the quest. Because some people have the rewards from the quest, it will remain in until the wipe. Regarding our quest stuck rules. You are allowed to TELL what AREA a quest or item drop is in, but that is all. You cannot discuss which mobs start the quest or what mobs drop what items. This is to encourage exploring and to keep the game fresh when new areas are installed. If you have issues with our rules regarding this, you're by no means obligated to stay and play. DBI's staff feels this is the best way to address quests since it will only allow those with the skills and ability to finish the quest and reap the rewards... Players can ask for help on a lot of things. They can ask where to gain at X powerlevel, syntax issues, just about anything that IS NOT quest related. Yes, it seem... Read More

I applaud your blatant misinformation and lack of knowledge in your own mud. In reality, bio-androids DO have suppress from the start like everyone else, and I definitely had it. I'm not saying you cant ever gain at all in these areas, I'm saying it's painfully slow since you have to suppress to do it. You can get to 100 trillion PL on mobs that are 100pl with suppress, the issue is the TIME it takes. ONLY two of the android quests are bugged. The ones that are longer than saying 'i want my new chip.' Some people would call that ALL of them. Next, I didn't distort the issue at all. I NEVER said my gains were up 25% OR 50% OR 25-50%. The only numbers I ever used were saying mine were up up to 300%, and then said I was sure it was a bug because the max I could see Rendo adding was 30%, so I just assumed he added an extra 0 or misplaced a decimal by 1 digit(I said this with Rendo online and listening by the way). So by the second or third time I told Rendo when he told me to BLANK OFF, I didn't care that it was a bug. To quote Rendo's post 'Eventually I told him it was not a bug, it was fine'. Replace 'it was fine' with 'now !^%@ OFF' and its close enough. I know it seems absurd in retrospect, since a player did the right thing and reported a bug that was beneficial to him MULTIPLE times and yet EACH time was ignored or insulted. The problem is Rendo, that IS what happened EXACTLY how it happened.

DB:I was probably the most uniquely coded and highly entertaining mud I've ever played on. They really deserve a higher pbase than they currently have. The drop rate code, which is not set to a very high number, ensures to keep the economy strong. Money is actually worth something, as it requires luck to get the item you are looking for to drop. The pbase is mature and amusing, I made plenty of friends in my short stay so far. The race system is also uniquely coded. There was like 12 races to choose from, including Saiyan, Icer, Human, Halfbreed, Konatsu, Kanassian, and Android to name a few. The races are extremely well balanced and if you ever have a problem, all you need to do is send a note to the coders and they take care of it. I only did a few quests, but they were well thought out and definitely challenging. The PVP system is also fantastic. With the balance between races, it takes fighting to the next limit. Test your skills ? You can spar. Want to take revenge ? Hunt them down, find them, let them know you are not the be messed with. So there you have it. DB:I Is not just a solid mud offering you an escape and allowing you to compete to be the strongest person in the universe, it also provides you with: A great player base, dedicated immortals, amazing code which keeps me there, a fantastic economy which allows any and all players to get what they desire with enough money, fun quests (even when you are frustrated you can't figure it out), and a sense of competition. I don't even care for DB muds too much, but this one grabbed me and wouldn't let me go. Anyone looking, or NOT looking for a new mud should still try this one out. It is definitely the best option out there for the genre.

Rendo- Nothing I said in my orininal post was a lie, save the age of the average immortal. The immortals really dont DO anything, and as much s you'd like to justify it by trying to be mysterious 'Oh yeah we're working on stuff that nobody knows about but us, and in the meantime we ignore the most basic work that needs to be done', paraphrased to be sure, but dead on. The helpfiles are horribly out of date or nonexistent, and quite frankly the immortals/players aren't helpful at all to new players unless they constantly spam a channel until someone answers them out of irritation. You'd think the 'newbie council' would be more 'newbie friendly'. I bring this up because it's extremely taxing as a new player to try and figure out exactly what a move does or how the game works. Ok, maybe the immortals do care about balancing, as you claim, however regardless of how much they care, they don't care enough to actually DO anything about it. I did not exaggerate when I said there are often as many immortals as players on, you'd think SOMEONE would get around to fixing SOMETHING. Final note to Rendo: I am not frustrated because I was banned, I became too frustrated BEFORE I was banned, (Namely the Adrian/Talling incident) and it was at that point I decided to write a review. Had I not been banned after that incident I would still have written this review and not returned. Your understanding and acceptance of this fact is unnecessary, I'm simply correcting your statement. Kilan- On the contrary. The crap about immortals 'following rules to the letter' is a blatant lie. I was challenged to a PK fight on the wrong channel (ooc, when you get through the newbie area you must answer a question telling you challenges are to be made on wartalk) and was under NO obligation to meet Adrian (immortal alt) for a duel as long as I was out of safe gaining PL, which I was. Talling then transfered me out of the Gete Star to Adrian for him to kill me. It was at that point the line was crossed and I made a conscious decision to get banned, or failing that to just leave. If you review the logs you'll notice. The real problem is that...lets say 'some'...of the immortals are obsessed with what little virtual 'power' they have. They try to act all tough and it comes off as pathetic. Constantly when 2 people are arguing instead of saying 'take it to FOS', or 'take it to tells' you get 'drop the subject. now.' and further attempts at macho crap when all the immortals really care about is trying to make themselves feel like they have control of people. 'Vendetta' against RPing isn't exactly correct, though I'll admit I'm not a fan. The only real reason I brought up RP was because it seemed to get plenty of attention when basic gameplay aspects of PK and of the mud itself desperately needed work. Final note to Kilan: While I'm not exactly sure who you are, understand that the underlying problem here is that my original post (once again save the age range) was accurate. While you may not like me saying any of these things you attack me because I got myself banned, yet I didn't lie. The best items ARE obtained primarily through RP, and on the off chance an imm runs a quest, and the smaller chance that it has the potential reward you want, and the even smaller yet chance you win the quest to obtain the item you want, someone else who RPs gets to pick and choose what they'd like, or design items themselves. (Also, the few quests there are that are worth doing can be interesting but are poorly designed) Readers- Rendo encouranges you to still try the mud and I am not saying don't try it. Simply be warned it isn't newbie friendly, the helpfiles wont tell you anything, and it can be frustrating to get answers from players. The immortals word is 'law', and even if you use the Freedom of Speech channel they'll still silence/hell/ban you as they see fit. None of this is untrue to the slightest degree. If you're used to that kind of setting and need a place to kill time then its really not that bad.

Firstly, didn't Crymsin get banned mainly for making a racial comment? And secondly, how can you say that the admins do no work when Talling just recently built an all new Satan City? Third, every admin on the MUD is 18 or over, and I can prove it. Just because you got banned, you're bashing the MUD. I got banned a while ago, and I was kind of angry at first, but I just wrote a pretty decent review, and I still occasionally vote for DBI. And yes, the game isn't much fun without RP, but what MUD is? And the whole helpfile thing is taken care of, thanks to Rendo's girl. Lastly, the statement about the admins characters being the most 1337 is pretty true, but did you ever think that maybe it's because they work hard to earn that PL? Suck it up and quit acting like a 12 year old girl.

Can you please explain what you mean by 'Kaios, who either oversee the worlds or seek to destroy them, based on their whims...' During my time there I saw no such thing implemented for a Kaio, or used to that extent in RP. What exactly are you referring to? One last thing. 'And the classes are so well balanced that nearly any player of any skill level can have the time of their life on the race they adore.' What do you mean classes? There are no classes to my knowledge. Only different races you can play, but being that you mention both classes and races in the same sentence, it is somewhat confusing.